In Hindsight, no way Em got Jay on Renegade.

[Mike Otherz]

you see im influeced by the ghetto you ruined, the same dudes you gave nothin i made somethin doing


name an em lyric on his verses as deep as that. that shyt goes into redlining, white supremacy, black agency and survival without preachin. and he did it on a record with a white supremacist rapper who was given superiority by white media. jay subverted the whole em narrative with that verse. yall caught up in the flow though. damn. when u gonna stop looking at pretty shiny things and see the real.

em was mostly ususal whining about media hating him, jay telling you the black experience.

 

[b@squ1@t]

highly unique thread breh

 

[DaddyTime]

highly unique thread breh

as true as this statement may be

he has a point about jay's lyrics being undermined

not to mention "em killed you on your own shyt" and then the bushes pursued

 

[Suicide King]

Both are good verses. Lets face it, though, its just another Jay verse about being a drug dealer on his 6th album.

I felt Em's verse way more, "You fukkin do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!"

It felt like he was defending hip-hop. That's why people were really loving Em's verse back then.

I loved Pac and Cube and all passion they put in their music, so that's what people like me loved about Em, he had the attitude of Pac and Cube.

 

[Stuntone]

Jay just dont have the emotion to compete on certain levels in Hiphop. That's why he sounded so awkward on Juvenile "Ha" remix. You can't be that laid back on the track and Em come screaming and yelling. He should've chosen Scarface.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Common knowledge loc... only a smart dumb nikka who tries to unfold scrolls and thinks "nacho cheese im castro" should have ever been written would think otherwise. Oh and dont forget about c00ns.

 

[up in here]

Oh my fukking god. Not this shyt again. I mean fukkin hell. How many goddamn times do yall wanna do this? Just stop man let it go. It's done. It's over. The goddamn argument is dead. Finito. Seriously, what the fukk are you tryna achieve here? What can you possibly say that hasn't been said a thousand times? Just let it go man, let it go.

 

[mr.africa]

 

[blackslash]

I mean this should be common knowledge

Only ppl who think otherwise are c00n ass nikkaz who give no fukks about the black struggle and experience and cacs

 

[Suicide King]

I mean this should be common knowledge

Only ppl who think otherwise are c00n ass nikkaz who give no fukks about the black struggle and experience and cacs

Remember, this came out in 2001. It was about the music, not this groupie shiit everyone is on these days.

Dudes even loved Stan, and that song is not about selling crack, either. So kill all the c00n talk.

Em just makes good music.

 

[blackslash]

Remember, this came out in 2001. It was about the music, not this groupie shiit everyone is on these days.

Dudes even loved Stan, and that song is not about selling crack, either. So kill all the c00n talk.

Em just makes good music.

Naaah Em was saying a whole lot of nothing while Jay was painting a clear vivid picture of the noose these cacs had us in

Ofc the hipster cacs and c00n ass nikkaz chose EM's verse because it waas easier to relate to the sentiments


Only real black men would prefer Jay's verse over Em's


Its that simple

 

[BigF]

We can't do this again.

Not again.

 

[Suicide King]

Naaah Em was saying a whole lot of nothing while Jay was painting a clear vivid picture of the noose these cacs had us in

Ofc the hipster cacs and c00n ass nikkaz chose EM's verse because it waas easier to relate to the sentiments


Only real black men would prefer Jay's verse over Em's


Its that simple

Jay been doing the same drug raps for 6 albums straight and a few mixtapes. Are you saying this is Jay's best verse? This is not even Jay's best performance on the album.

Its an okay track for Jay, but I really studied Em's verse. 13 years ago, people were not that easily impressed.

Now, people hype up Migos.

 

[blackslash]

Jay been doing it for 6 albums straight. Are you saying this is Jay's best verse? This is not even Jay's best performance on the album.

Its an okay track for Jay, but I really studied Em's verse. 13 years ago, people were not that easily impressed.

Now, people hype up Migos.

They must have been if they hyped up EM's nonsense verse of Jay's

 

[Mike Otherz]

as true as this statement may be

he has a point about jay's lyrics being undermined

not to mention "em killed you on your own shyt" and then the bushes pursued

that nas line was like something a cac writer at pitchfork would say to not have to be confronted with their white privelage and implicit racism.. watch how these cacs react when any rapper gets pro black. its why PE were shut out eventually or why conscious rap never really took off. people say consciuos rap is boring. i wonder why. or when Scarface said what he said about whites running hip hop, that Miss Info hated on him. the same ho who had black women slapping the sh!t outta eachother on hot 97 slapfest. long as these negros making entertaining music about killing outer negroes its all good. for the record, i like ignorant rap as well but i celebrate the full spectrum of rap. anyway i digress, it was rare black self hatred from the gawd nas who i feel is the goat. but nas was using all type of underhand tactics he had to go there.