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This thread is inspired by Flexo Rodriguez's dumb ass surprise at most people preferring Drake to Currensy. Which is so :deadmanny: I almost don't know where to begin.

Here's the real: If no one listens to your favorite rapper, your favorite rapper is mediocre at best, and most likely complete trash.

All the greatest rappers of all time are popular within hip hop. I'm not talking about Shania Twain fans and shyt. I don't give a fukk who they like in hip hop. My point is: within hip hop fans, the kind of people who would listen to any great hip hop record and derive tons of enjoyment from hip hop alone, there are certain rappers that people all know and most, if not all, respect. Simply because those artists have made undeniable songs that most enjoy. If you're a hip hop fan, it's impossible to not love at least one KRS-One song, even if you're not a KRS-One fan.

You can not be amazing at rap and no one knows who you are nor knows your songs. e.g. K-Rino. This is why The Ruler looks like a blowjob betty every time he talks about K-Rino, and we laugh, giving him multiplat threads filled with jokes. K-Rino is laughably garbage and has no effect on rap outside his own zipcode.

Underground rappers are underground for a reason. 99% of the time, they're just not good enough. They can't transcend their niche, and usually their niche isn't all that interesting. The best underground rappers like a Nas or Wu-tang or DOOM or even a Lil B (big fanbase) always have some sort of commercial success and relatively large fanbase. It's not a lot, but the point is: people spread the word. When you're amazing, people can't stop talking about you. Or biting you.

If you're confused as to why your favorite rapper is not as known as say Kendrick or J Cole or Drake or Meek Mill or Rocky, ask yourself this basic question: Do hip hop fans even know my favorite rapper? and do they give a fukk about him/her? If the answers are no, you know what it is.

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nikka you a fool. eminem sell 10 million records every album and his shyt worse than my dog dookie (I dont even have a dog)
underground got heat but sometimes cats aint fuccin wit em like that
 
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nikka you a fool. eminem sell 10 million records every album and his shyt worse than my dog dookie (I dont even have a dog)
underground got heat but sometimes cats aint fuccin wit em like that

Eminem is not in this convo.

There's 3 types of popular: popular incredible, popular mediocre and popular dookie. Eminem is in the mediocre/dookie category. Most popular stuff falls in that category. But there's a small percentage of popular stuff that is simply the best stuff around. Great stuff never stays underground that long. it may never go fully mainstream but it'll have notoriety and some sort of mainstream mention.

99% of underground rappers are mediocre and dookie by default. They make music that most don't feel like talking about nor sharing. The sharing part is the key.

If you're incredible, people will share your stuff. Period.
 

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You can not be amazing at rap and no one knows who you are nor knows your songs. e.g. K-Rino. This is why The Ruler looks like a blowjob betty every time he talks about K-Rino, and we laugh, giving him multiplat threads filled with jokes. K-Rino is laughably garbage and has no effect on rap outside his own zipcode.

If you're confused as to why your favorite rapper is not as known as say Kendrick or J Cole or Drake or Meek Mill or Rocky, ask yourself this basic question: Do hip hop fans even know my favorite rapper? and do they give a fukk about him/her? If the answers are no, you know what it is.

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being known in the mainstream like kendrick, cole, drake falls heavily on marketability; not how great of a rapper they are. and you named lil B as one of the best underground rappers along the names of Nas Wu-tang, Doom :mjlol:


cant just exclude Em either when it suits your point :ufdup:. he proves how important marketability is for fanbase and album sales.
 

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being known in the mainstream like kendrick, cole, drake falls heavily on marketability; not how great of a rapper they are. and you named lil B as one of the best underground rappers along the names of Nas Wu-tang, Doom :mjlol:


cant just exclude Em either when it suits your point :ufdup:. he proves how important marketability is for fanbase and album sales.

no amount of marketing dollars would make K-Rino listenable.

Try again.

Blu >>>>>> ASAP Rocky by galaxies, musically,lyrically and fan appreciation. lets not act like asaps last album wasnt anything but dookie juice.

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your obviously sleeping on how big spittas fan base is, he is arguably a top 3-5 underground hip hop rapper who gets features from well respected nikkas in the industry.

and not being known is pretty subjective now, its 2015 you have cac miller and joey badass who are also unknown outselling a-b list rapper in first week and overall sales.
 

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This thread is inspired by Flexo Rodriguez's dumb ass surprise at most people preferring Drake to Currensy. Which is so :deadmanny: I almost don't know where to begin.

Here's the real: If no one listens to your favorite rapper, your favorite rapper is mediocre at best, and most likely complete trash.

All the greatest rappers of all time are popular within hip hop. I'm not talking about Shania Twain fans and shyt. I don't give a fukk who they like in hip hop. My point is: within hip hop fans, the kind of people who would listen to any great hip hop record and derive tons of enjoyment from hip hop alone, there are certain rappers that people all know and most, if not all, respect. Simply because those artists have made undeniable songs that most enjoy. If you're a hip hop fan, it's impossible to not love at least one KRS-One song, even if you're not a KRS-One fan.

You can not be amazing at rap and no one knows who you are nor knows your songs. e.g. K-Rino. This is why The Ruler looks like a blowjob betty every time he talks about K-Rino, and we laugh, giving him multiplat threads filled with jokes. K-Rino is laughably garbage and has no effect on rap outside his own zipcode.

Underground rappers are underground for a reason. 99% of the time, they're just not good enough. They can't transcend their niche, and usually their niche isn't all that interesting. The best underground rappers like a Nas or Wu-tang or DOOM or even a Lil B (big fanbase) always have some sort of commercial success and relatively large fanbase. It's not a lot, but the point is: people spread the word. When you're amazing, people can't stop talking about you. Or biting you.

If you're confused as to why your favorite rapper is not as known as say Kendrick or J Cole or Drake or Meek Mill or Rocky, ask yourself this basic question: Do hip hop fans even know my favorite rapper? and do they give a fukk about him/her? If the answers are no, you know what it is.

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Lil B doesn't even have a song that has charted breh:mjlol:
 

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you need a certain look, style, subject matter, and be able to appeal to cacs. k-rino wouldnt be a good candidate

K-Rino's fanbase has higher rates of cac than Kendrick. You're the biggest K-Rino stan on this board, and we know you rep kilts and bagpipes.

Nice try on the mental gymnastics.

your obviously sleeping on how big spittas fan base is, he is arguably a top 3-5 underground hip hop rapper who gets features from well respected nikkas in the industry.

And he's still nowhere close to Drake in any category of this rap shyt :bryan:

and not being known is pretty subjective now, its 2015 you have cac miller and joey badass who are also unknown outselling a-b list rapper in first week and overall sales.

Receipts?

Lil B doesn't even have a song that has charted breh:mjlol:

Lil B's not really a rap artist in the traditional sense. He's a Youtube comedian who raps. There's a bit of a difference.

I deliberately added him to show that even Lil B is more popular than 99% of underground rappers despite not releasing actual albums in stores/music for purchase and having zero airplay.

So what's your favorite underground rapper's excuse for why he/she hasn't made it? :mjlol:
 
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