Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
What's the difference and pros and cons of each?
football, pro offense vs college offense.
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triplehate
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I just started getting into studying football concepts and coverages by reading smartfootball.com and other similar blogs just to find time to bullshyt at work. Im basically high jacking this thread to find out if their are any coaches out there that have other sites they visit.
From what ive gather so far basically all the real innovation comes from high school coaches, they are running some ridiculous stuff at those levels
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From what ive gather so far basically all the real innovation comes from high school coaches, they are running some ridiculous stuff at those levels
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shyt like this is making me
Huellz Santana
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find somone else to do your homework.
PortCityProphet
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Could you be a little more specific into what you mean?
Some of the same plays are run, but faster.
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
What kind of shyt is this? Homework? I'm just asking the guys who have more knowledge about the subject.
find somone else to do your homework.
I heard on the radio today, a guy talking about nfl qbs saying, "hes in a college system and hes in a pro system".
Do you mean the play itself is run through its sequences faster because of the design of the play, or because the players are faster?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
The best NFL offenses will produce 400 yards a game. The best college offenses will produce 500 yards a game.
The answer to your question lies in the defenses.
The answer to your question lies in the defenses.
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
So in reality, its a dumb talking point?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Well, there are differences. Because the defenses aren't as good colleges can run gimmick offenses. That's why QB's throw for 500 yards in college. Receivers are always open.
But it's the defenses that are the key. In college you have 100+ D1 schools. In the NFL, it's contracted to 32 teams and only the best of the best get in. And they stay for more than 4 years. That's why Reggie Bush couldn't dance through defenses in the NFL. He played against like 5 NFL caliber defenders all year compared to playing against 11 guys who would dog walk a college All American team all at the same time.
Jadeveon Clowney dominates college football but he's only gonna be "pretty good" to start his NFL career.
The defenses is why a lot of college offenses don't work in the NFL. Can't run the option when every DE runs a 4.8 and under. No more wide open holes in the defense when every DB is running 4.5 and under.
College coaches are smart for exploiting these defenses but most of those schemes are dependent on inferior defenses so won't work in the NFL.
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
So its really not the offensive scheme then, its the player?
I mean the design of the play is the same, the speed of the players is faster.
triplehate
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How they say nothing new is under the sun, nothing is new in football. All the schemes are the same, the only difference is they have moved from under center to shotgun in the last few seasons in both college and nfl. And the offensives will always seem more explosive in college because of the wider hash marks and the clock stopping after first downs. Which allows them to get more plays
iamstr8fire
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This is a fairly general question but I'll give you my assessment. It comes down to a few things.
Talent Level - Undoubtedly the most important thing. The talent is spread out all over the place in college. In the NFL that aint the case. You can certainly exploit starters in college and you typically can't do this for an extended period of time in the NFL.
Awareness - College defenders aren't as aware as their NFL counterparts. Most of them aren't the cream of the crop so that isn't all that surprising. Ultimately, that's why you will see certain "gimmick" offenses (I really hate that term) blossom in college. Triple Option, Spread Option, Pistol, and even some neutered versions of the west coast offense work wonders in college because they exploit common mistakes that defenders make. In college some coaches will design their entire offense around defenders making terrible decisions. NFL players are much better so you can't really count on them to continually make the wrong reads and adjustments.
Defensive Continuity - Very rarely will you see an entire college team's defense play very well together. To play good defense you have to be around someone a while, know where they are going to be, communicate with them well, be in tune with adjustments etc. The chances that you will actually get to play with the same core of guys for a long time in college is pretty damn slim. Again coaches can game plan and exploit the hell out of this.
Discipline and Saavy - College defenders are typically hit and miss on discipline. Very few will maintain their lanes, use the sideline as an extra defender, or make offensive players work for the yards they gain. You can see that in the success of players like Reggie Bush, Tedd Ginn Jr., Mike Vick etc at the college level. If a defense plays with good discipline you just aren't going to have the opportunity to zig zag across the open field the way some guys do in college. That is also why you can see some relatively unknown ball carriers in college burst onto the scene in the nfl. Decisive north/south runners do much better b/c they make decisions and go instead of dancing around.
Margin of Error - This is probably one of the bigger ones. Passing windows and margin of error in general for college ball are HUGE. You can hold the ball longer, put less zip on the ball, and even telegraph your plays (in some instances) in college ball and get away with it. In the NFL you have to anticipate much more and be better with ball placement. You can't really call plays with the expectation that at least one important defensive player will have a head explosion and leave someone open.
Overall, college defensive systems can be built to go overboard exploiting deficiencies in talent and or awareness. NFL systems really can't be designed that way. That's why some great colleges coaches were either ok or downright terrible in the pros (Pete Carroll Patriots first stint, Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban, Butch Davis, Bobby Petrino, etc).
Hope that helps.
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