"Empire" Flops Overseas as Foreign Viewers Resist Hollywood's Diversity Push

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Driven by the ratings success of shows with mainly nonwhite casts — Empire, Black-ish andFresh Off the Boat — along with political pressure to make shows better reflect their diverse audience, American TV outlets increasingly are greenlighting series that feature black, Asian and Latino leads. Fox's 24: Legacy, a reboot of the Kiefer Sutherland series, stars Corey Hawkins, famous as Dr. Dre from Straight Outta Compton. CBS has Rush Hour, based on the action movie franchise, starring Jon Foo and Justin Hires, and has cast Sarah Shahi, a former NFL cheerleader of Persian and Spanish ancestry, as Nancy Drew in its reboot of the lily-white mystery franchise.

“It's color-blind casting,” says Sony Pictures TV casting director Dawn Steinberg. “There used to be a time when it had to be written that way to look for an actor with a specific ethnicity. Now it's just who is the best actor for the role.”

But when trying to sell overseas, American shows are finding the color barrier is still there. Why? Insiders say it's because international audiences have yet to truly embrace diversity on the small screen. "These shows are a reflection of our society, but [they are] not a reflection of all societies," says Marion Edwards, president of international TV at Fox.

Take Empire. Fox's hip-hop drama appeared to be a slam dunk for the international market: a splashy mainstream hit that felt both of the moment and a throwback to primetime soaps, and global hits, like Dallas and Dynasty. But the show has been a global flop. In the U.K., the first season drew a middling 717,000 viewers on Channel 4's youth-oriented E4 network, a mere 3 percent share, and season 2 has been worse, averaging a 2.2 percent share with 595,000 viewers. The show first season averaged 181,000 viewers on Australia's Channel Ten, prompting a shift to the smaller Eleven network, where season two has averaged just 77,000 viewers an episode. In Canada, broadcaster Rogers Media moved Empire off its free-TV network City after season two ratings dipped to 208,000 viewers, shifting the second half of the season to its online streaming service Shomi. While in Germany, Empire, whichaired in primetime on Pro7, one of the country's leading free-TV networks, attracted less than 1 million viewers per show and fewer than 4 percent of the national audience, a fraction of the channel's regular draw.

“I love the show and we took a big risk on it. But our courage was not rewarded,” says RudigerBoss, head of acquisitions at ProSiebenSat.1, which bought Empire for German TV.

Adds Edwards: "Having a diverse cast creates another hurdle for U.S. series trying to break through; it would be foolish not to recognize that. We are telling our units that they need to be aware that by creating too much diversity in the leads in their show means … problems having their shows translating to the international market."

The diversity issue comes at a particularly perilous time for U.S. television studios because foreign outlets increasingly are creating their own shows or buying from producers in their region. American series simply aren't as popular as they used to be. This is significant because international sales can provide significant revenue. A 2013 study by U.K. group Digital TV Research estimated the sale of U.S. drama series to European television generated $5.4 billion for U.S. rights holders, $1 billion less than in 2008.

But it would be simplistic to call viewers in Europe, Canada or Asia racist. Edwards points to global juggernauts NCIS and CSI “two hugely popular shows, both of which have had versions with diverse actors as major characters, without hurting their performance internationally.” The Digital TV Research study appears to confirm this, noting that NCIS generated $205 million in revenue for CBS from sales to Europe in 2012, making it the most valuable imported series. CSIwas second on the list, with an estimated $188 million in revenue from European TV sales.

Edwards also notes the success of The Cosby Show “which broke all the rules of international television: a half-hour comedy, with a black cast. And it translated everywhere,” she says. “It was the same thing with The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.”

“Those shows and the success of the originalRoots mini-series proved there is an interest in black stories abroad,” says Timothy Havens, a professor in African-American studies at the University of Iowa and author of Black Television Travels: African American Media around the Globe. “But the pattern we've seen, again and again, is that black shows break new ground that white shows benefit from. So Roots was followed by a number of white miniseries that were very successful abroad, Fresh Prince by white youth-oriented shows.”

Havens also draws a distinction between shows like CSI and Shonda Rhimes' Shondaland productions (Grey's Anatomy, How to Get Away with Murder) which feature “black faces but non-ethnically specific kinds of stories” and are often very successful worldwide— and the “specifically black stories” of series like Empire and Black-ish, which tend to sell only to smaller niche networks outside the U.S..

A broader issue on the international television market is the difference in viewing habits between U.S. audiences, who have largely embraced complicated story-telling and non-generic drama formats, and international viewers, at least those watching on mainstream channels, who prefer traditional, episodic TV of the NCIS, CSI variety.

"Diversity is an issue with our audience, but it's also the kind of shows coming out of the U.S. now — almost everything is serial, with long multi-episode story arcs, [and] that doesn't work for us," says Philipp Steffens, head of drama at RTL, Germany's leading commercial network. Out of necessity, RTL in 2015 signed a deal with French network TF1 and NBCUniversal International Television Production to directly produce U.S. series themselves with a European audience in mind. The initial plan sees the financing of two development cycles with a target of producing three series over the next two years.

Says Steffens, "We're hoping the deal will mean we'll get the kind of shows we used to from the U.S."
 

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America is 13% African-American (or thereabouts), and a quick Wiki shows that England is 3.5% Black, and British white people and American whites aren't the same, so to expect John and Kate from Liverpool to give a shyt about a hip-hop oriented fukkery fuelled drama is a stretch.

Not that these shows are only made to be viewed by Black people, but like the article says, the stories in shows like Empire and Black-ish are more distinctly African-American stories, so it's a life that a European or Australian person isn't exactly clamouring to watch..
 

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America is 13% African-American (or thereabouts), and a quick Wiki shows that England is 3.5% Black, and British white people and American whites aren't the same, so to expect John and Kate from Liverpool to give a shyt about a hip-hop oriented fukkery fuelled drama is a stretch.

Not that these shows are only made to be viewed by Black people, but like the article says, the stories in shows like Empire and Black-ish are more distinctly African-American stories, so it's a life that a European or Australian person isn't exactly clamouring to watch..
they did with fresh prince and the Cosby
 

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they did with fresh prince and the Cosby

Yeah of course they did, because even though those shows had black casts, they weren't strictly black stories, they were family stories.

You could replace Fresh Prince and Cosby casts with white people and you might have a show that's just as successful. That's not to take anything away from either show, but "poor kid moves in with rich relatives" and "doctor lectures his wife and children" aren't "black" stories, they're just stories, they just happened to have black casts that reached across on both sides of the white/black and America/Europe divide.

But if you stripped Empire of it's blackness and replaced it with white people, you'd have a different/lesser show ie. Nashville, which averages a quarter or less of Empire's ratings in the States, but may/probably does better overseas, because "John and Kate" from Sydney or Liverpool are more likely to relate and understand the dynamics.

That's the point I was trying to make.

German people don't know people like Cookie and aren't familiar with the stereotype, so put her in a commercial and replace her dialogue with a German dub, and you'll have a bunch of German people confused and indifferent.
 

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Or maybe people over seas realize that empire absolutely sucks and don't want to watch unrealistic Rachet nonsense with a obvious gay agenda.

Nor do blacks in those areas feel like fox dictating to them that we are nothing but homosexual rachet nikkas.

I'm happy we are stopping watching this bullshyt.
 

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It's a hip hop drama breh. Not gonna blame racism for a bunch of cacs and Asians for not giving a damn about it. Plus it's wack
 

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It's a hip hop drama breh. Not gonna blame racism for a bunch of cacs and Asians for not giving a damn about it. Plus it's wack

Exactly. You'd never read this headline:

"Nashville" Flops on BET as Black Viewers Resist Hollywood's Country Music Push!

Everything isn't racism. A lot could be, but this isn't one of them.
 

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Adds Edwards: "Having a diverse cast creates another hurdle for U.S. series trying to break through; it would be foolish not to recognize that. We are telling our units that they need to be aware that by creating too much diversity in the leads in their show means … problems having their shows translating to the international market."
So cacs make up the majority of the international market now :what:? Bullshyt :camby:
 

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Very shrewd move by likely fox executives to put this story out there hoping to rally black people up over perceived racism in hopes to get their large audience back. Real slick

Fukk empire fukk Lee daniels fukk the little twinkle toe clown who like to sing bullshyt every 3rd scene and fukk that precious chick and her fake ass love life.

Taraji p tho :shaq:
 
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