Duerte openly admits to going out on murder sprees, his supporters pull a Trump. :francis:

[Professor Emeritus]

Trump supporters are just about one level of fukkery away from going here too.

It should have been a shocking admission.

On Monday, Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Philippines, bragged about killing people. He said that when he was a city mayor, he used to hunt suspects on his motorcycle, shooting people on the spot. The goal, he said, was to encourage police officers to do the same.

“In Davao, I used to do it personally. Just to show to the [police] that if I can do it, why can’t you?” he said.

“I [would] go around in Davao with a motorcycle … and I would just patrol the streets and looking for trouble also. I was really looking for an encounter to kill,” he said.

This was not the first time that Duterte appeared to admit to murder — nor would it be the first time his supporters dismissed his remarks. On Wednesday, Vitaliano Aguirre II, his justice secretary, said that the president “exaggerated” and that although Duterte said he went “looking” to kill, he actually “must have been forced.”

All of this fits a pattern: Duterte calls for killing alleged criminals and then denies a personal or government role. It's a strategy that helped get him elected and that keeps him popular as his self-proclaimed “war on drugs” claims thousands more.

Duterte: I personally killed drug suspects




Do you know how hard it is to just "find' someone who deserves to die while you're driving around on the streets? I was in a slum neighborhood in Manila for six weeks, and the worst things I ever saw were poor kids sniffing glue and shyt exchanging hands here or there. I had a friend who had been in prison for drug dealing, but he became a Christian in prison and was now cleaned up, focusing his entire life around caring for his baby son, studying for the ministry, and trying to be a role model in his community.

Duerte would have just murked him.

MANILA - (UPDATED) The Department of Justice created Wednesday a 5-man prosecution panel against 28 cops led by CIDG Region 8 head, Supt. Marvin Marcos, for the Nov.5 murder of Leyte mayor Rolando Espinosa, but President Duterte affirmed support for the policemen, saying he would "not allow" them to go to jail.

Justice Secretary Vitaliano Aguirre signed the order creating the panel, a day after the National Bureau of Investigation released its report on the killing by Marcos' team of the Albuera town mayor, declaring it a "rub out." The NBI dashed the police claim that Espinosa and cellmate Raul Yap drew guns on them as they served search warrants on their cell at the Baybay sub-provincial city jail at dawn Nov. 5, 2016.

The NBI had said the grounds - Espinosa and Yap had guns and drugs in jail - cited by Marcos' team for getting the search warrant were dubious. In the first place, lawmakers had questioned the need for a search warrant to check on inmates kept in a city jail.

The NBI, the equivalent of the United States' FBI, said the policemen probably placed pistols and illegal drugs in the cells of the two dead inmates to justify the police raid.

"What the police stated is the truth for me," Duterte said in a speech. He added he would not allow the policemen to go to jail.

The NBI findings cast a black mark on Duterte's deadly anti-drug crackdown, which has alarmed western governments and human rights groups. There have been suspicions that some of the more than 4,000 slain drug suspects may have been killed deliberately by law enforcers and did not die in gun battles as claimed by police.

As quoted by the media, Duterte declared in a speech in Mandaluyong City:

“I will not allow these guys to go to prison, even if the NBI says it was murder. After all, the NBI is under me, the Department of Justice is under me.”

In typical Duterte-speak (where he routinely contradicts himself), he said: “But to tell you, I do not interfere. They have findings, good. File the case but I won’t leave the policemen implicated in the killing.”

And in a perversion of his oath of office, Duterte, in effect, declared that his loyalty to the country ends where his loyalty to his policemen begins:

“Whatever the police say, that’s the truth for me. The NBI said it was murder. The police said: ‘Sir, he fought back.’ I believe the police. Why would I sacrifice the police for that?”

28 cops came in and shot down a mayor while he sat in his freaking jail cell?

And even Duerte's own FBI says that it was a set-up?


Police in America are bad as is it. Imagine if they had that kind of free hand.

But are we going to claim that Filipino police are just much more moral, much better judges of character, much better controlled and trained than American cops?

In October, Duterte compared himself to Adolf Hitler and said he would be "happy to slaughter" three million drug addicts.

He later apologized for the Hitler reference but said he was "emphatic" about wanting to kill the millions of addicts.

In September, a self-confessed Davao death squad member told a Senate hearing into the drug war that then-mayor Duterte personally gunned down a justice department agent and ordered the murders of opponents.

The confessed hitman, Edgar Matobato, said one of the victims was fed to a crocodile.

Duterte's aides denied the claims, sought to discredit Matobato and orchestrated the removal of the president's chief political opponent as chair of the Senate hearing.

Compares himself to Hitler.

Knocks off political opponents.

Feeds people to crocodiles.

This might be two levels up from Trump. Still....they apparently love each other.

Duterte has been widely criticized, not only by the local political opposition but by world leaders and international media for his bloody war on drugs. Even Senator Panfilo Lacson, who cannot be classified as “yellow” -- a pejorative, that once referred mainly to the Aquinos and the Liberal Party but now includes anyone who is seen as anti-Duterte -- has just “sounded the alarm... over daily killings in the country” attributed to the campaign against drugs.

Said Lacson on Twitter: “For someone like me who’s not a human rights advocate to get worried about the daily killings, something very wrong must be going on.”

Anyone familiar with the track record of Lacson as a former chief of the Philippine National Police and as an officer of the dreaded Metrocom Intelligence and Security Group (MISG) must take his comments seriously.

BusinessWorld | Do we really need a gangster for a president?



Caping for this shyt is crazy man.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Police in America are bad as is it. Imagine if they had that kind of free hand.

They're about to

 

[Dr. Acula]

The most messed up thing I heard about this thing is that it's bad enough you're killing drug users. But there are also several cases where the government encouraged people to seek treatment, which several users did, only for a month down the road some masked men show up at their door and murder them.

Everyone who is killed is supposedly "fighting back " and have some shabu on them. There are a lot of brave drug users out there.

 

[Uncle Hotep]

Dont sell the white man's drugs...its that simple

 

[Uncle Hotep]

 

[Dr. Acula]

Dont sell the white man's drugs...its that simple

He is killing users too. Also you have to take their word everyone is a user or dealer who was killed.

There are abnormal of killings where extremely poor people have shabu and a handgun on them after their death. what a coincidence. Everyone seems to also be fighting back against the police while eyewitness reports report summary executions and conflicting statements whether the people ever owned a gun or drugs when they are so poor they can't put food on the table.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The most messed up thing I heard about this thing is that it's bad enough you're killing drug users. But there are also several cases where the government encouraged people to seek treatment, which several users did, only for a month down the road some masked men show up at their door and murder them.

Everyone who is killed is supposedly "fighting back " and have some shabu on them. There are a lot of brave drug users out there.

Philippine senators call for Duterte to be impeached over killing confession

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They're about to

Yeah, 50% of my post is about the crazy brutality of the shyt he's pulling off, and 50% is alluding to the clear parallels between his rise and Trump's.

The most messed up thing I heard about this thing is that it's bad enough you're killing drug users. But there are also several cases where the government encouraged people to seek treatment, which several users did, only for a month down the road some masked men show up at their door and murder them.

Everyone who is killed is supposedly "fighting back " and have some shabu on them. There are a lot of brave drug users out there.

He is killing users too. Also you have to take their word everyone is a user or dealer who was killed.

There are abnormal of killings where extremely poor people have shabu and a handgun on them after their death. what a coincidence. Everyone seems to also be fighting back against the police while eyewitness reports report summary executions and conflicting statements whether the people ever owned a gun or drugs when they are so poor they can't put food on the table.

Yup, it completely defies imagination. I love how that mayor supposedly had illegal drugs and guns in his jail cell....then pulled on 28 cops coming in to search him.

What was he going to do with the guns?

The idea that thousands of guys are pulling on cops, and yet the cops are amazingly coming out unscathed every time, is a lot of obvious bullshyt.

Dont sell the white man's drugs...its that simple

Nah, man, they're killing a bunch of people who are just addicts too. Not to mention that there's a shytload of poverty in the Philippines....you see people who feel like they need to deal to make a living in America, but it's a whole different level there for some of these people just scraping by. Not that I'm caping for drug dealing, but if we're going off of relative morality, they haven't done anything which deserves killing nearly as much as, say, Duerte himself has done, which makes this hypocritical as hell.

And no evidence, no trial....you know a lot of innocent people are taking strays. You piss off some well-connected guy, he tells his police friends that you're a dealer...

You're gone.

 

[Uncle Hotep]

Yeah, 50% of my post is about the crazy brutality of the shyt he's pulling off, and 50% is alluding to the clear parallels between his rise and Trump's.








Yup, it completely defies imagination. I love how that mayor supposedly had illegal drugs and guns in his jail cell....then pulled on 28 cops coming in to search him.

What was he going to do with the guns?

The idea that thousands of guys are pulling on cops, and yet the cops are amazingly coming out unscathed every time, is a lot of obvious bullshyt.





Nah, man, they're killing a bunch of people who are just addicts too. Not to mention that there's a shytload of poverty in the Philippines....you see people who feel like they need to deal to make a living in America, but it's a whole different level there for some of these people just scraping by. Not that I'm caping for drug dealing, but if we're going off of relative morality, they haven't done anything which deserves killing nearly as much as, say, Duerte himself has done, which makes this hypocritical as hell.

And no evidence, no trial....you know a lot of innocent people are taking strays. You piss off some well-connected guy, he tells his police friends that you're a dealer...

You're gone.

seems he is popular in the Philippines? Stop using 1st world logic and morality in 3 world problems.

 

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delete

 

[Saiyajin]

keep in mind he has a crystal meth problem

which means his users get high and then stay awake for days stealing shyt to try and get money for the next high

crystal meth and stimulants are so destructive because it affects tax paying citizens

 

[Grand Conde]

Dont sell the white man's drugs...its that simple

...are you actually stupid enough to believe everyone they kill is a drug dealer?

 

[MrPentatonic]

real driller

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The UN Commission on Drugs and Crime says that the Philippines's drug use rate is below the global average. Amnesty International has stated that there's no evidence that the Philippines has become any sort of drug or crime hotbed. It's largely a made-up crisis to allow a certain response.

And he's a hypocrit too, because he's a Fentanyl user, so there's that.

seems he is popular in the Philippines?

Duerte won an 8-way election in May with 38.5% of the vote.

And Trump is popular here, just won the election, therefore he's a good idea.

Hell, Hitler won his first election too.


Duerte is popular because he is charismatic and incredibly media-savvy. He builds up a personality cult around himself, so that he can go off-the-cuff and say whatever he wants and his supporters love it - as you see in my quotes above, denying he really means it whenever he says something obviously inappropriate, and allowing himself to openly contradict himself over and over. He was elected in May - he's only been president for 6 months now, and his basic accomplishment has been cursing out world leaders and killing some 5,500 people. He's not popular due to a particular accomplishment.

There are real issues with the previous leaders that set the stage too. The Philippines was under a dictatorship up until 1986, and have been ruled by a few wealthy families who didn't really give a shyt about the poor and the working class ever since. With lack of jobs for many people and leaders who the people felt didn't care, the public wanted an "outsider" in and was willing to welcome a hero who told them that he'd put his foot down and fix everything....hmmm, where have we heard that one before?

Stop using 1st world logic and morality in 3 world problems.

Seriously, breh, this guy has bragged about shooting a guy in law school who teased him about his ethnicity.

When an Australian missionary was gang-raped and killed by a prison gang, he said he wished that he had gotten in on the action:

"When the bodies were brought out, they were wrapped. I looked at her face, son of a bytch, she looks like a beautiful American actress. Son of a bytch, what a waste. What came to mind was, they raped her, they lined up. I was angry because she was raped? Yes, that's one thing. But she was so beautiful, I think the mayor should have been first. What a waste."




During a press conference about journalists being killed, he said:

"Most of those killed, to be frank, have done something. You won't be killed if you don't do anything wrong.....Just because you're a journalist you are not exempted from assassination if you're a son of a bytch."

At another news conference he defended his comments and refused to apologize, telling the reporters, "I cannot protect you".





All of those statements, about shooting a dude in law school and wanting to rape an Australian girl and being okay with assassinating journalists, are from this year.

Elect a gangster as president, brehs.



Telling the police that they can kill anyone they want, however they want, and be free from consequences is a horrific idea in any country, 1st world or 3rd.

And thinking that killing drug users will end drug problems is an ignorant idea wherever you are.


People use drugs because their lives suck and there's too much stress in them, so they turn to something else. There's a drug problem in the Philippines because there's a social problem in the Philippines. A police force that kills whoever it wants doesn't end the social problems, it compounds them. As long as you have millions of people living in ultra-crowded slums, the social problems will continue.

And if you think this shyt works....he had 22 years as mayor to prove himself, and the national police say that the murder rate in Davao City is the highest of any major city in the Phillippines. The rape rate is 2nd highest. It's a center for human trafficking and one of the hottest spots for child prostitution. Duerte himself declared a state of emergency earlier this year after a bombing there killed 14 people and claimed it was embedded in a state of lawless violence.

The only people who claim that crime has gone down due to Duerte are Duerte himself, who constantly pushes out his own made-up numbers declaring a decreased crime rate, and his personality cult who buys anything he says. And even his own statements contradict his claims.

If this approach works, why did was his city still the crime hotbed of the Philippines after 22 years of him as mayor there?