Brehs, Where do you think China's position will be in the next 50 years?

Tom Foolery

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Just watch the Umar Breakfast Club interview and he says a lot of things I've been thinking for a long while.

Buying land all over the world, displacing their excess population, cheap manufacturing, everyone on the same page....and I could keep going.

How do you see this playing out in the next few decades? Is the lane really just open for them like that?







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China has been ahead of the curve for most of history. Their resistance to embrace globalization hobbled that for a few centuries, but they came around :manny:
 

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It's not colonialism. With the US/West being run by bankers and siphoning off wealth, the Chinese have done all these infrastructure investments in Africa as a work program for their population as well as to build new trade networks. It has boomed the Chinese economy while limiting inflation. The downside is that it's hurt African domestic markets a bit too.

Though for Africa it's better than being under the service of western debt which is slavery through interest payments. At least the Chinese build infrastructure that can be used for a long time. The former colonial powers and the US don't offer that at this juncture.

The 21st Century of China project is to build up up Central Asia trade and resource links along the New Silk Road. This will allow China to not be locked off should there be a showdown with the US Navy in future years. They are avoiding what happened to Japan in WW2.

The western world sooner or later will have this finance system that's run by parasitic bankers and oligarchs collapse which will present an opportunity to rectify the problems we currently face such as say, healthcare for all, which will be easier to to implement when you don't have an empire of military bases all over the world.
 

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They make everything & no immigration worries.their only fault is not having all asian nations on their side
 

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America will decline and China will rise, but they will never become the undisputed world power that the USA is now. China is situated in a very competitive geopolitical neighbourhood and as China progresses, countries like India and Vietnam will keep their reach in check. They don't have the luxury of having 2 whole oceans separating them from any potential competing world powers like the United States does, and their borders aren't as secure either. It will just be a pivot to Asian economic power with China playing the role of Asia's Germany but never out right dominating the rest of the continent
 

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50 years is an eternity. In 1900 the British controlled the "empire upon which the sun never sets."

A few things to consider:

1. Whether the growing middle class will be OK with the communist party power structure and all that comes with it (lack of political freedom etc).

2. Environmental degradation

3. Whether the US relationship with China's neighbors (Japan. S. Korea, Taiwan etc) remains strong or if they start being drawn into China's orbit.
 

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i read an opinion that there would be a revolution in china before they overtook the US :ehh:

honestly, china could be bending this country over around 2100 :huhldup: as much as i hate our military spending, the fact is that there's some upside to it

luckily i'll be dead when this country has to answer for its sins
 

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Anyone who thinks China will be number 1 has never been to China or met any Chinese.

Was at Pudong airport in Shangai and it was half finished and the surrounding areas looked like chernoble.

One child policy, rampant pollution, growing middle class developing under a dictatorship, no immigration so no new ideas or innpvations, all the smart chinese emigrate to America, bordered by Russia and India
 
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They'll be the Eastern hegemon, only checked by a combination of US intervention in surrounding states, Japan's nuclear strength, Russian aggression, and Indian development. Nothing outside of China fracturing internally would stand in the way of this. They also may have far stronger relationships with outside "illiberal democracies" than the US will, due to their indifference at exporting culture or government.
 

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Anyone who thinks China will be number 1 has never been to China or met any Chinese.

Was at Pudong airport in Shangai and it was half finished and the surrounding areas looked like chernoble.

One child policy, rampant pollution, growing middle class developing under a dictatorship, no immigration so no new ideas or innpvations, all the smart chinese emigrate to America, bordered by Russia and India
Trust, most of the smart Chinese" aren't emigrating, and Shenzen gives a good showing of just how rapid and powerful Chinese development can be. The more complacent the youth is, in regard to democracy, the more likely the government is to continue their development at a rapid pace. Plus they're exporting work to other developing regions, both in "Sub-Saharan Africa," and South America.
 
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