Black People Are Not Ignoring 'Black On Black' Crime

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Ta-Nehisi Coates is a national correspondent at The Atlantic, where he writes about culture, politics, and social issues. He is the author of the memoir The Beautiful Struggle.

Black People Are Not Ignoring 'Black On Black' Crime


I'm slowly catching up on my reading on the week's events in Ferguson and trying to get my head around what exactly happened. In the meantime, one idea creeping into the discourse—that black people are unmoved by intra-community violence—deserves to be immediately dismissed. Eugene Robinson, reacting to the tragic murder of Knijah Bibb, offers an incarnation here:

We’ve been through this so many times. Brown, from all reports, was a good kid who had just graduated from high school and was about to enroll in college. But young black men are automatically assumed to be dangerous thugs—and are not given the benefit of the doubt that young white men are accorded. This is racist and wrong, and it must change.

But we should be just as outraged over Knijah’s death—and just as determined that this kind of killing should never happen again.

The entire Prince George’s County police force—not just the homicide division—has been working long hours to try to find Wallace and is motivated by what a police spokesman called a “sense of moral outrage.”

That feeling should be universal. The near-constant background noise of black-on-black violence is too often ignored. Yet it continues to claim victims at a rate that our society should consider outrageous and unacceptable.

There are a number of things wrong here. To the extent that killings by the police generate more outrage, it is completely understandable. Police in America are granted wide range of powers by the state including lethal force. With that power comes a special place of honor. When cops are killed the outrage is always different than when citizens are killed. Likewise when cops kill under questionable terms, more scrutiny follows directly from the logic of citizenship. Great power. Great responsibility.

More importantly Robinson's claim is demonstrably false. The notion that violence within the black community is "background noise" is not supported by the historical recordor by Google. I have said this before. It's almost as if Stop The Violence never happened, or The Interruptors never happened, orKendrick Lamar never happened. The call issued by Erica Ford at the end of thisDo The Right Thing retrospective is so common as to be ritual. It is not "black on black crime" that is background noise in America, but the pleas of black people.

There is a pattern here, but it isn't the one Eugene Robinson (for whom I have a great respect) thinks. The pattern is the transmutation of black protest into moral hectoring of black people. Don Imus profanely insults a group of black women. But the real problem is gangsta rap. Trayvon Martin is killed. This becomes a conversation about how black men are bad fathers. Jonathan Martin is bullied mercilessly. This proves that black people have an unfortunate sense of irony.

The politics of respectability are, at their root, the politics of changing the subject—the last resort for those who can not bear the agony of looking their country in the eye. The policy of America has been, for most of its history, white supremacy. The high rates of violence in black neighborhoods do not exist outside of these facts—they evidence them.

This history presents us with a suite of hard choices. We do not like hard choices. Here's a better idea: Let's all get together and talk about how Mike Brown would still be alive if Beyoncé would make more wholesome music, followed by a national forum on how the charge of "acting white" contributes to mass incarceration. We can conclude with a keynote lecture on "Kids Today" and a shrug.

@Walt @NYC Rebel

It's damn near tired at this point.
 

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It's like I was telling my homegirl the other day. We can shout from the high heavens and it's always ignored. Guess the other side is on some if we don't pay them any attention then just maybe they will go away mentality or something. And for me, at this point it's just exhausting fam. Like I'm mentally tired from the little bit I contribute to cause it's falling on deaf ears from both black (to a certain extent) and white folks. I've stopped subscribing to the notion of once that older white generation dies off then things will get better cause I'm sure a relative of mine who was here in 1621, 1775, 1861, 1865, 1945, and 1964 said the same thing and look where we are. Barely a millimeter past what they went through. Sorry for the long post that was everywhere. Daps on the thread
 

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Of course we don't ignore it....The folks that share these views don't come to the rally's, are not at any of the town hall meetings...etc What they fail to realize that their issue has to do with the publication and attention from the media that doesn't exist. At the end of the day, those who control media will not shed our ppl in a good light nor will they help us in trying to uplift our ppl.
 

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As community I think we're very aware of it and have been for sometime, being in a position to counter the underlying causes is the issue. Firstly the harsh laws on firearms possession and prison industrial complex has only made things worse, followed by a real lack of improvements and social mobility in lower income areas and inner cities which were forgotten and marginalized for decades. The lack of creation in jobs beyond the service industry is also destroying our country at large. Wage inequality and a sense of hopelessness is also effecting many young adults.
 
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Yea, I always give a side eye to anyone who brings up chicago when shyt like this happens. My only response to them is, do they really think that if that violence spilled into a white neighborhood that ALL of the bullshyt wouldn't be deaded instantly?
 

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:snoop: Oh Lord man, I can't stand that "But what about when Blacks kills Blacks" dumb a$s rebuttal. This the sh#t bigots bring up to try & deflect away from the blatant bias that's held by authority figures which was created to f##k us over. EVERY race, color & creed has had violence brew within it's circle. As a matter a fact Caucasians are the PRIME reason the U.S. as well as the world is a turd on wheels. I don't wanna here none of this "Oh so it's okay if blacks do this & that, reverse, hop-scotch over the current topic so I'm not accountable" bullsh#t.

... One thing I hate we do is not be consistent. Trayvon got killed, we protested/ marched, bought hoodies & raised Champions sales ratings, Put up a few social media post then that hefty, trigga happy mall cop muhphucka Georgio gonna get off & have the nerve to want to box black celebs. SMFH, all these thugs that kill each other over streets they don't own & colors Crayola not cutting them a check for shoulda BEEEEN! clapped his b!tch as$!! We ready to pop off once it happen but only in a trendy, hot-this-week fashion. :aicmon:

We definitely take part in the problem but not the ONLY ones at fault.
 

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It's like I was telling my homegirl the other day. We can shout from the high heavens and it's always ignored. Guess the other side is on some if we don't pay them any attention then just maybe they will go away mentality or something. And for me, at this point it's just exhausting fam. Like I'm mentally tired from the little bit I contribute to cause it's falling on deaf ears from both black (to a certain extent) and white folks. I've stopped subscribing to the notion of once that older white generation dies off then things will get better cause I'm sure a relative of mine who was here in 1621, 1775, 1861, 1865, 1945, and 1964 said the same thing and look where we are. Barely a millimeter past what they went through. Sorry for the long post that was everywhere. Daps on the thread
Yeah that's a garbage narrative as well, waiting for the baby boomers to die off, especially after the rise of the internet and blog sites show otherwise.
 

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Yea, I always give a side eye to anyone who brings up chicago when shyt like this happens. My only response to them is, do they really think that if that violence spilled into a white neighborhood that ALL of the bullshyt wouldn't be deaded instantly?
Why aren't there protests, marches, Sharpton visits, and public outrage in Chicago? Imagine all of this type of energy put into those slayings as well. ONE killing by a cop in Ferguson brought the masses. Why cant that be done for the 20 or however many black boys were killed by black boys in Chicago last weekend?

There is no way you can say that black boys killed by black boys brings the same anger call for change that comes when a white cop or wannabe cop(Zimmerman) kills a black boy.
 
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im sorry but until I see Detroit 300 groups popping up in urban cities across America, the argument that blacks ignore black on black crime is valid.
 

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It's like I was telling my homegirl the other day. We can shout from the high heavens and it's always ignored. Guess the other side is on some if we don't pay them any attention then just maybe they will go away mentality or something. And for me, at this point it's just exhausting fam. Like I'm mentally tired from the little bit I contribute to cause it's falling on deaf ears from both black (to a certain extent) and white folks. I've stopped subscribing to the notion of once that older white generation dies off then things will get better cause I'm sure a relative of mine who was here in 1621, 1775, 1861, 1865, 1945, and 1964 said the same thing and look where we are. Barely a millimeter past what they went through. Sorry for the long post that was everywhere. Daps on the thread
Weve come to the point where white kids and black kids can be friends and no ones parents get mad

The point where we can have a black president

Dudes like paul mooney can shyt on whites all day an stay alive

The point where we can live in white neighborhoods without everyone hating us

The point where a white and a black can date without everyone going apeshyt crazy

Yea......weve come a long way. We arent there yet but we definitely have progressed
 

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Why aren't there protests, marches, Sharpton visits, and public outrage in Chicago? Imagine all of this type of energy put into those slayings as well. ONE killing by a cop in Ferguson brought the masses. Why cant that be done for the 20 or however many black boys were killed by black boys in Chicago last weekend?

There is no way you can say that black boys killed by black boys brings the same anger call for change that comes when a white cop or wannabe cop(Zimmerman) kills a black boy.
The difference is justice. In one case someone was killed for no reason by someone whos job is to protect all people. In the other its two enemies killing for gain or out of hatred. Very different situations.
 

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Yea, I always give a side eye to anyone who brings up chicago when shyt like this happens. My only response to them is, do they really think that if that violence spilled into a white neighborhood that ALL of the bullshyt wouldn't be deaded instantly?
If the cops tried to fix the bad parts of chicago it would be mayhem and would make things worse. Think about it for a second.......
 

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If the cops tried to fix the bad parts of chicago it would be mayhem and would make things worse. Think about it for a second.......

I'm reading Queens Reigns Supreme (shout out to @CombatJack ) and they talked about all the violence going on in NY in the late 80s and how it all culminated when a cop was executed. Cops cracked down on the city and there was serious police reform that led to cleaning up the city. I just don't think the police care all that much as long as the violence stays controlled in those areas.
 
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