Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Question is sparked from a post I read about Black celebrities' contributions to their community, but I noticed similar arguments being made for non-celebrities, especially business owners
At what point are Black folks not obligated to do anything for their community?
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GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
no one is obligated to do shyt for anyone but your own family. but if you're in a position to help others you should. when we die the only part of us that continues to live on are the things you've done for others.
What are these people supposed to do for "their communities"? When I hear such talk, it's usually about expecting others to do for people, what people wont do for themselves. Giving back is good, but who is anyone to tell others what they should do with their time and money?
BaltimoreTwilightMarauder
Superstar
If you're struggling to provide for your family you need to handle THAT before you try helping 13% of the American population. Only those who are comfortable and/or stable should feel obligated to spread the wealth around.
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
never, there is no point at which that's cool.
that goes for human beings in general, not just us... but especially us.
make positive contributions at all times (positive contributions are not limited to money)
that goes for human beings in general, not just us... but especially us.
make positive contributions at all times (positive contributions are not limited to money)
Get yourself together first. Then if you can contribute whether you like it or not your family has to live in your community. One would hope that the better things get (via contributions, jobs ect.) The better and safer the community.
CodeKansas
Superstar
The "fukk you, I got mine" mentality shouldn't exist in the black community. We got a number of black folks in sports and entertainment that make millions to live lavish lifestyles, make business moves to perpetuate that wealth, but rarely does that seem to affect the black communities. I understand that personal responsibility for us is paramount, but a little jumpstart from the black 1% wouldn't hurt, in my opinion.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
Being intellectually honest, societal responsibility means nothing if it's not complimented by personal responsibility, and vice versa. I think(hope) that's obvious, so I'm trying to go beyond the regular personal responsibility arguments
Why do Black folks like referencing other cultures in selective context(neighborhood ownership and business), but then ignore those communities' innate obligatory communal nature, that makes the other aspect that we admire possible?
share pertinent information,
to hire,
to build with and build for,
to marry...like other communities
Why do Black folks like referencing other cultures in selective context(neighborhood ownership and business), but then ignore those communities' innate obligatory communal nature, that makes the other aspect that we admire possible?
If nobody's obligated to help others, how do you explain the current social structure that has certain communities exposed to resources that neighboring communities are not?
The obligation is due to the reality of white supremacy. The only solution to counter systemic oppression is to have a systemic solution that's based on obligations and commitments to support your community and community members
Absolutely. But I don't just mean financial. I also mean the obligation to
share pertinent information,
to hire,
to build with and build for,
to marry...like other communities
A person's only obligation is to their children. If everyone would just handle that one obligation then the community would take care of itself. The problem is that people are refusing to step up and handle that one obligation, which is what is causing the problem in the larger overall community.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
We have more than enough examples of Black adults raised in "good" homes still not taking care of anyone outside of their family/friends/network
AlainLocke
Banned
Individuals are not obligated to assist or provide for each other.
Not even if you have more than others, not even obligated to take care of family and friends.
You don't even have an obligation to your country.
I don't think people have obligations and responsibilities for things they did not choose.
Only institution that has an obligation is the government since it takes our money and we hace the right to make sure it provides the best quality of life since it takes our money.
Not even if you have more than others, not even obligated to take care of family and friends.
You don't even have an obligation to your country.
I don't think people have obligations and responsibilities for things they did not choose.
Only institution that has an obligation is the government since it takes our money and we hace the right to make sure it provides the best quality of life since it takes our money.
ThatTruth777
Superstar
shyt always gotta be dire before folks come together
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
if everything is optional, then which flourishing community or country could you reference that implements this approach?