At some point J Cole fans have to stop talking about what hes "GOING" to do.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I want to see the guy win, despite what may seem like harsh and consistent criticism, but at some point you have to look at what he's done and judge him based on that.

You can't keep touting what he WILL do and look at whats in front of you.

Its just not that good at this point.

The Jay-Z cosign didn't do much. His production doesn't carry him. His themes get washed out. He doesn't give his lyricism much support. His recent EP was just super average. Dude just doesn't have "it"...but his fans keep giving him this pass of future greatness.

At what point will dude deliver? He's easily replaceable at this point by any of his peers on blog sites looking for hits with their average product.

He's playing it safe again with this Miguel single. I like the song actually since its the best hes put out since maybe Friday Night Lights with Too Deep for the Intro. But again, its just kinda...ok. Now what?

If hes going to do big things, ya'll gotta let him show us first.

I understand the draw to his image. He seems like hes a student of the 90s era people like to tout as the model for hip-hop, but hes not doing it ANY justice.

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

 

[JayYoung314]

I want to see the guy win, despite what may seem like harsh and consistent criticism, but at some point you have to look at what he's done and judge him based on that.

You can't keep touting what he WILL do and look at whats in front of you.

Its just not that good at this point.

The Jay-Z cosign didn't do much. His production doesn't carry him. His themes get washed out. He doesn't give his lyricism much support. His recent EP was just super average. Dude just doesn't have "it"...but his fans keep giving him this pass of future greatness.

At what point will dude deliver? He's easily replaceable at this point by any of his peers on blog sites looking for hits with their average product.

He's playing it safe again with this Miguel single. I like the song actually since its the best hes put out since maybe Friday Night Lights with Too Deep for the Intro. But again, its just kinda...ok. Now what?

If hes going to do big things, ya'll gotta let him show us first.

I understand the draw to his image. He seems like hes a student of the 90s era people like to tout as the model for hip-hop, but hes not doing it ANY justice.

I think you pretty much answered your own thread.

 

[bigmac]

Tell me another freshman rapper in the last five years who has delivered two near classic mixtapes, toured Europe dolo, got a platinum lead single and a gold second single and moved 217,000 units of his debut self-produced album, tailing off now at sutt'n like 650k.

I'll wait.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Tell me another freshman rapper in the last five years who has delivered two near classic mixtapes, toured Europe dolo, got a platinum lead single and a gold second single and moved 217,000 units of his debut self-produced album, tailing off now at sutt'n like 650k.

I'll wait.

Drake?

Big Sean?

Kid Cudi?

Wiz?

Wale?

Kendrick (on the way)?

:-/



I'll be damned if some of that wasn't manufactured hype. Like I said. Once rumors were out that Jay-Z was smitten with this dude, there was nothing that could be told to any of you dudes.

Have you ever BEEN to a Cole concert? shyts depressing yo.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I want to see the guy win, despite what may seem like harsh and consistent criticism, but at some point you have to look at what he's done and judge him based on that.

You can't keep touting what he WILL do and look at whats in front of you.

Its just not that good at this point.

The Jay-Z cosign didn't do much. His production doesn't carry him. His themes get washed out. He doesn't give his lyricism much support. His recent EP was just super average. Dude just doesn't have "it"...but his fans keep giving him this pass of future greatness.

At what point will dude deliver? He's easily replaceable at this point by any of his peers on blog sites looking for hits with their average product.

He's playing it safe again with this Miguel single. I like the song actually since its the best hes put out since maybe Friday Night Lights with Too Deep for the Intro. But again, its just kinda...ok. Now what?

If hes going to do big things, ya'll gotta let him show us first.

I understand the draw to his image. He seems like hes a student of the 90s era people like to tout as the model for hip-hop, but hes not doing it ANY justice.

Who has more success out of the recent albums off of their Rookie LB besides Cole?

Exclude, Drake and Wiz

 

[CrimsonTider]

Drake?

Big Sean?

Kid Cudi?

Wiz?

Wale?

:-/



I'll be damned if some of that wasn't manufactured hype. Like I said. Once rumors were out that Jay-Z was smitten with this dude, there was nothing that could be told to any of you dudes.

Have you ever BEEN to a Cole concert? shyts depressing yo.

He had more success than Wale and Big Sean.

Cudi is debatable

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who has more success out of the recent albums off of their Rookie LB besides Cole?

Exclude, Drake and Wiz

Ya'll gotta stop touting album sales as examples of music quality.

Who is still playing these songs man?

Are you still playing Sideline Story?

Where is J Cole getting played? Who is listening? Are people requesting his stuff?

Dudes want to talk about industry plants... no other artist sends my bullshyt meter flying more than J Cole sometimes.

I'm really trying and I just don't see it. Even though i'm not big Kendrick fan, I recognize his fan base.

 

[Colilluminati]

He needs a better producer

 

[bigmac]

Drake?

Big Sean?

Kid Cudi?

Wiz?

Wale?

Kendrick (on the way)?

Have you ever BEEN to a Cole concert? shyts depressing yo.

I've seen Cole three times in the UK. If they're your suggestions, you don't deserve to be posting on these boards.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I've seen Cole three times in the UK. If they're your suggestions, you don't deserve to be posting on these boards.

3 times?

I'm sorry to hear that.

I bet you saying "who dat, who dat" like that shyts hard, huh?

Is Cole the one you been waitin on?

 

[Tide Run This]

Drake?

Big Sean?

Kid Cudi?

Wiz?

Wale?

Kendrick (on the way)?

:-/



I'll be damned if some of that wasn't manufactured hype. Like I said. Once rumors were out that Jay-Z was smitten with this dude, there was nothing that could be told to any of you dudes.

Have you ever BEEN to a Cole concert? shyts depressing yo.

Big Sean got this my man it will be filed and understood come the end of 2013.

 

[NigerianDonDada]

This nikka J.Cole stays making female based records. nikkas diss Drake and other rappers for making those records but when J.Cole does it it's . Plus his production is J.Cole is a above average rapper. Won't front he can spit. He isn't doing nothing new or special tho.

 

[blackslash]

I still dnt see what was classic about The Warm Up...sht puts me to sleep

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This nikka J.Cole stays making female based records. nikkas diss Drake and other rappers for making those records but when J.Cole does it it's . Plus his production is J.Cole is a above average rapper. Won't front he can spit. He isn't doing nothing new or special tho.

Yeah...this is a whole other argument though. Dudes give J Cole the pass but when Drake does and its 10x better ya'll stay coming with the jokes.