An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood (Book)

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Here is a review from Amazon on the book:

Neal Gabler explores the fascinating question of how Hollywood was created primarily by a remarkable group of men who fit into a remarkably small demographic: European Jewish immigrants, most of them poor, most of them from Manhattan's lower east side, none of them practicing Jews, most of them from families with weak father figures. But together they moved to an almost completely protestant city and created the most successful form of popular entertainment in America, presenting an idealized version of American life for a nation in a constant for new national myths. The most fascinating thing about the book is the gap between the mythical world that they were presenting and their own backgrounds. For Louis B. Mayer, Andy Hardy's America was for him the real America, an America where there were strong nuclear families headed by strong fathers, doting neo-Victorian mothers, and obedient, respectful children. Economically most people were Middle Class, the tenor distinctively Middle American, and almost always Christian. Gabler argues that for most of these men, what they provided was not America as it existed, but the America that they wanted to be a part of.

Almost all of the major studios were founded by men who more or less fit Gabler's description. There are a number of major and minor characters in Gabler's story, the most prominent being Adolph Zukor, who was instrumental in creating Paramount; Carl Laemmle, founder of Universal; William Fox of Fox Pictures, which later merged with Twentieth Century; Louis B. Mayer, who built MGM into Hollywood's largest studio; Harry and Jack Warner of Warner Brothers; and the belligerent Harry Cohn of Columbia. There are in addition a number of crucial supporting characters, none more important than the legendary Irving Thalberg (I knew very slightly Thalberg's son, also Irving, an academic philosopher who spent his career in Chicago and who quietly funded liberal political causes--he paid for the Chicago Seven's legal bills at their trial--while quietly pursuing his university career), the inspiration for F. Scott Fitzgerald's last novel THE LAST TYc00n. We also meet the Schenck brothers, Nicholas and Joseph, the Rabbi of Hollywood Edgar F. Magnin, theater chain owner Marcus Loew, and an uncountable number of smaller figures.

One of the most striking aspects of the biography is how utterly these men suppressed their Jewish backgrounds in their films. Although THE JAZZ SINGER is the story of the son of a Jewish son rejecting the culture of his cantor father (Gabler points out that the son's story was also the story of the moguls), the vast majority of movies produced by Hollywood in the twenties, thirties, and forties contained no identifiably Jewish characters. Although an astonishing number of the people producing the movies were Jewish, it was as if they felt compelled to completely erase Jews from their idealization of American life. The was more than mere assimilationist aspirations; it was as if they were trying to expunge the weak fathers of their youths, the poverty they knew growing up, and become a part of a nation that largely rejected them. For two or three decades, at least, they could maintain this myth, but in the forties and the HUAC committee of the U.S. House of Representatives they found their fiefdom increasingly under attack for the industry's supposed inculcation of un-American (i.e., Communist) values. Many of their attackers persisted in the fascist depiction of Communism as an essentially Jewish cast of thought (in Hitler's writings there is no clear distinction between Jews and Communists, and at least one part of his motivation in attacking Russia was to attack what he weirdly considered a Jewish nation).

This is not a perfect book. For one thing, the scope is simply too large for any one book to undertake. And inevitably there are either serious omissions or details that don't quite tell the whole story. For instance, Gabler attempts to characterize the more plebian tendencies at Warner's by mentioning that one of their stars was Rin Tin Tin, which seems to hint at how far down the ladder they were in the Hollywood pecking order, but failing to note that for most of his life Rin Tin Tin was the number one box office star in Hollywood. Also, there is amazingly little discussion of the many Jewish performers in Hollywood. Some are mentioned in passing (such as Groucho Marx, noting his famous reply to the attempt by the Jewish country club Hillcrest to recruit new members following the stock market crash, that he wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would accept someone like him as a member), and Edward G. Robinson gets a few mentions, but for the most part actors are ignored. This is overwhelmingly a book about the top brass. And one can take issue with some minor depictions, such as the long discussion of the nature of Universal in the thirties, but no mention of the man who is most responsible for the visual look of those films and the director of all their major achievements, James Whale. The implication is that the distinctive look of Universal films was not determined by the former art director Whale. But this is all nitpicking.

I do have to take strong issue with one of the current featured reviews that criticizes the book because he believes that the American depicted in the movies was very much the America he knew in the forties and fifties. First, the book deals mainly with America in the twenties and thirties, a bit less with the forties, and the fifties almost not at all, so the time framework of his criticism is off. Second, how can anyone argue that the movies were not an idealization if one knows any American history at all? Certainly the poverty that my parents and grandparents knew growing up in Arkansas during those decades was almost completely ignored, THE GRAPES OF WRATH aside (and the subject of that film were very much my people). Any informed demographic study of the period will show that the depiction of women in the films was wildly out of kilter with the actual lives of women, many of whom had to take jobs even in the thirties, forties, and fifties to enable families to make it financially (the fifties is the only decade in American history of which the so-called traditional American family is even somewhat true). And Hollywood films of the period are notorious today for their depiction of race relations. Anyone stating that the Hollywood film in any conceivable sense depicted America as it really existed beggars credulity.

I strongly recommend this book to anyone either interested in the history of the movie industry or how immigrants sought to integrate themselves in their new nation. The book contains a wealth of information and I can't imagine anyone know coming away from it not merely entertained but better informed.





This book/review got me thinking:

What could the black community do in terms of creating an industry the way Jews did when they created Hollywood? What types of industries could the black community create and control?
 

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we should be definitely taking
as far as the business and storytelling aspect


but its up to black men to do it

what industries could we create though? That's what I'm basically asking. I was just using Hollywood as an example of an industry.
 
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Here is a review from Amazon on the book:







This book/review got me thinking:

What could the black community do in terms of creating an industry the way Jews did when they created Hollywood? What types of industries could the black community create and control?


Black people can have their own movie industry, but c00ns want oscars and meaningless accolades from hollywood which is being eclipsed anyway by the Chinese Movie Industry.
 

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This book/review got me thinking:

What could the black community do in terms of creating an industry the way Jews did when they created Hollywood? What types of industries could the black community create and control?

This is a HILARIOUS question given what the book is about.

The Jewish folks who started Hollywood started it because they were separate from their community:

- They were Jewish in heritage, but didn't practice Judaism
- They moved to a place that was not "Jewish"
- They tried to hide their "Jewishness", and didn't make "Jewish" movies...and you could argue that still happens
on a level today

If there was a group of Black folks who did something similar today, they would be called "c00ns".
 

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Here is a review from Amazon on the book:







This book/review got me thinking:

What could the black community do in terms of creating an industry the way Jews did when they created Hollywood? What types of industries could the black community create and control?


To answer your question the same thing that happens whenever black people create anything beneficial in America.

Rosewood, FL Black wall street in Durham and Tulsa OKC, Fort Negro in TX, Seneca Village in NYC


It get's destroyed or stolen from us. Believe me there are plenty of viable industries we have contributed to over the years (Think Detroit) that we get no credit or acknowledgement for. Guess where Henry Ford got his ideas from?

C.R. Patterson & Sons Company (1893-1939)

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The C.R. Patterson & Sons Company was a carriage building firm, and the first African American-owned automobile manufacturer. The company was founded by Charles Richard Patterson, who was born into slavery in April 1833 on a plantation in Virginia. His parents were Nancy and Charles Patterson. Patterson escaped from slavery in 1861, heading west and settling in Greenfield, Ohio around 1862.- See more at: C.R. Patterson & Sons Company (1893-1939) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
 

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To answer your question the same thing that happens whenever black people create anything beneficial in America.

Rosewood, FL Black wall street in Durham and Tulsa OKC, Fort Negro in TX, Seneca Village in NYC


It get's destroyed or stolen from us. Believe me there are plenty of viable industries we have contributed to over the years (Think Detroit) that we get no credit or acknowledgement for. Guess where Henry Ford got his ideas from?

C.R. Patterson & Sons Company (1893-1939)

Back to Online Encyclopedia Index
Frederick_Patterson.jpg

Image Ownership: Public Domain
The C.R. Patterson & Sons Company was a carriage building firm, and the first African American-owned automobile manufacturer. The company was founded by Charles Richard Patterson, who was born into slavery in April 1833 on a plantation in Virginia. His parents were Nancy and Charles Patterson. Patterson escaped from slavery in 1861, heading west and settling in Greenfield, Ohio around 1862.- See more at: C.R. Patterson & Sons Company (1893-1939) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed



So what should we do? Not even bother to try anymore?
 

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Have to c00n it up and figured out something cads haven't thought and sell it to them exclusive with no cacs in the background.
 
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a good read!

Oscar Micheaux

Oscar Devereaux Micheaux (US pronunciation: i/ˈɒskə.mɪˈʃoʊ/; January 2, 1884 – March 25, 1951) was an African-American author, film director and independent producer of more than 44 films. Although the short-lived Micheaux Book & Film Company produced some films, he is regarded as the first major African-American feature filmmaker, the most successful African-American filmmaker of the first half of the twentieth century[1] and the most prominent producer of race films.[2] He produced both silent films and "talkies" after the industry changed to incorporate speaking actors.

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This is a HILARIOUS question given what the book is about.

The Jewish folks who started Hollywood started it because they were separate from their community:

- They were Jewish in heritage, but didn't practice Judaism
- They moved to a place that was not "Jewish"
- They tried to hide their "Jewishness", and didn't make "Jewish" movies...and you could argue that still happens
on a level today

If there was a group of Black folks who did something similar today, they would be called "c00ns".
Cite your sources plz, or are you just stating your opinion as a fact? Jews are proud of their religion.
 
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